[fvc-wat-disc] Video of Final NDP Leadership Debate in Vancouver

[Donald Fraser]

I'm leaning your way, Cathy

On 13 September 2017 at 22:16, Cathy Scott <cathy.scottfree at gmail.com>
wrote:

> HI, Donald
>
> I would like to vote for Charlie, as I think he has a good track record
> and talks in a straight forward way; lots of experience and well-informed,
>
> But Charlie’s commitment to  electoral reform and PR, doesn’t seem as
> strong as Guy’s, so I think I have to vote for Guy.
>
> Cathy
>
>
>
> *From:* fvc-wat-disc [mailto:fvc-wat-disc-bounces at listserv.thinkers.org] *On
> Behalf Of *Donald Fraser
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 13, 2017 6:05 PM
> *To:* FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [fvc-wat-disc] Video of Final NDP Leadership Debate in
> Vancouver
>
>
>
> still in limbo re leadership vote ... let's not keep it a secret ... who
> is voting for whom?
>
>
>
> On 12 September 2017 at 12:01, Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> After reading *http://www.fairvote.ca/ndp-leadership-race/
> <http://www.fairvote.ca/ndp-leadership-race/> *on Anita's post, I don't
> like Charlie's promise of a referendum after 2 terms of PR ... New Zealand
> did that because the National Party had committed to do so before the
> election ... I don't trust the Canadian electorate to inform themselves
> even after 2 terms ... if MMPR is in the platform, then election gives the
> mandate, although one might argue that it only holds if a party WINS the
> election.
>
>
>
> Once MMPR is implemented, it can still be reversed without a referendum IF
> the electorate elected a majority C or L government ... not likely, but
> possible, so nobody can claim that there is no way out.
>
>
>
> On 12 September 2017 at 11:47, Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Dave, in answer to your question about 'sources' ... I was referring to my
> political mentors, Jenn and Sharon, who do a lot of research ... not to a
> sinister guy in an underground parking garage ... I'm not super connected
> to any anonymous sources ... BTW one of the TIFF movies stars Liam Neeson
> playing "Deep Throat" in the Watergate Crisis ... it will be good.
>
>
>
> On 10 September 2017 at 20:08, Dave Arthur <arthurd23 at bell.net> wrote:
>
> I watched the whole debate at the NDP event at the Duke of Wellington.
>
> I was disappointed that the PR question was brief and only involved Singh
> and Caron.
>
> We’re left wondering what the others’ commitments are .
>
> Has Fairvote done a thorough study of the four candidates’ stances and
> plans to move PR along?
>
> Don, you say from all sources Caron is the most committed.
>
> Is there agreement on that?
>
> And, while all four said similar, good things about many issues, who is
> most likely to capture Canadians’ attention and confidence?
>
> Is there another Jack Layton out there?
>
> Dave A
>
>
>
> *From:* Donald Fraser
>
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 10, 2017 7:02 PM
>
> *To:* FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
>
> *Subject:* [fvc-wat-disc] Video of Final NDP Leadership Debate in
> Vancouver
>
>
>
> Be sure to watch, so we can pick the best leader for PR
>
>
>
> http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ndp-leadership-debate-vancouver-1.4282537
>
>
>
> If you want to get right to the PR question, move the slider to
> approximately the middle
>
>
>
> Guy Caron reiterated his commitment and asked Jagmeet Singh what he
> planned to do ... Singh admitted that Caron's plan was good and that he
> himself had yet to place his electoral reform plan on his website. Singh
> gave excellent reasons for MMPR but it seems insincere if he hasn't placed
> it on his site. Neither Charlie nor Niki commented, but the Vancouver
> debate rules didn't allow that.
>
>
>
> But from all sources, Caron, in my opinion, is the most committed to PR.
>
>
>
> cheers,
>
> Don
>
>
>
>
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