[fvc-wat-disc] Possibly dumb question on FPTP...

Sharon Sommerville sharonsommerville at gmail.com
Sun Feb 4 21:23:54 EST 2018


Hi Jenn,

That was a wonderful video. Elizabeth is clear & informative. Thanks for
passing it along.

Cheers,
Sharon

On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 5:36 PM, Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com> wrote:

> I watched an interesting Ted Talk from Elizabeth May on this just the
> other day.  Because, one of the things I had been using was the fact that I
> can vote in these horse races by way of making a bet.  And you know what?
> I can WIN even though my horse wasn't the first past the post!
>
> I started to write it, but Elizabeth May is a LOT better in explaining
> things than I am, so I'll leave it to her:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcwsSDynCcc
>
>
>
> On Sun, Feb 4, 2018 at 4:41 PM, Dave Arthur <arthurd23 at bell.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jay
>>
>> The term comes from horse racing where the first horse that passes the
>> post wins and all the others lose and get nothing.
>>
>> That’s just what happens in each riding where the candidate that gets the
>> most votes wins and the other candidates lose and all the votes that they
>> received have no influence on the overall results whatsoever.
>>
>> The idea is that all votes should have some effect on the overall
>> representation which is what PR achieves.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
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>> Windows 10
>>
>>
>>
>> *From: *Jay Judkowitz <judkowitz at gmail.com>
>> *Sent: *Sunday, February 4, 2018 3:14 PM
>> *To: *FVC Waterloo Region Discussion <fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org>
>> *Subject: *[fvc-wat-disc] Possibly dumb question on FPTP...
>>
>>
>>
>> So, does anyone know why it's actually called "first past the post"?
>>
>>
>>
>> That name makes it sound like there is some marker there and it's a race
>> to pass it.  Like, first past 30% wins.  But, there is no post at all,
>> nothing that can be determined even knowing the number of candidates.
>> Shouldn't it be called something like "Plurality Voting" or "Plurality
>> Takes All" or something more descriptive?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance for the education!
>>
>>
>>
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