[fvc-wat-disc] [fvc-wat-announce] Meet The Waterloo Candidates Tomorrow Night!

Fri Jun 1 08:48:54 EDT 2018

 "you need 30,000 of those 20,000 to vote yes" ... this sounds like
travelling faster than light

On 30 May 2018 at 13:06, Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com> wrote:

> Heh, we have a National Council member coming from a long way away to work
> on Schreiner's campaign next week.  And then, he's going to drive up to
> Ottawa for the FVC AGM.  Which, you can, too!
> https://www.eventbrite.com/e/fair-vote-canada-agm-2018-tickets-45842411888
>
> For those who are maybe nervous about voting NDP, and cynical altogether,
> I believe the BC-NDP just came through.  A two-part question, followed by
> three options of PR.  Yippee!!!!  (My opinion only)
>
> But I'm excited!  I'm looking forward to this year now!!  On the other
> hand, the PEI referendum is an absolute joke.  And NOT funny!!  Have you
> guys heard?  50% of people voting in ANOTHER election have to vote yes
> (i.e., if the municipal elections have 60,000 votes and the referendum has
> 20,000 votes, you need 30,000 of those 20,000 to vote yes)  And if you
> don't vote at all in the referendum, your non-vote counts on the 'no'
> column.  Oh, and just in case, you also have to have 60% support of the
> ridings.  (27 ridings means above-calculated yes votes in 14 of them)  In
> case that wasn't hedging their bets enough, both the yes side and the no
> side get $75,000 of government money.  There can be any number of groups
> who can qualify for the yes side and the no side.  So if 20 people at five
> people per group choose to say they'd like to be on the yes side, that is
> $15,000 the FVC-PEI team gets to spend.  No telling if the other four
> qualified yes advertisers will spend wisely, have a clue what they are
> doing, aren't really no side supporters, etc.  And our team can't spend any
> more, or advocate for PR until the next *Provincial election!*  How's
> that for silencing opponents?  The money these Liberals will spend to NOT
> give us what we want is astounding.  I mean, saying no at the outset
> doesn't cost anything.  Not campaigning on changing the voting system costs
> even less.
>
> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:40 PM, Catherine Campbell <
> cdcampbell9 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Guelph Green hq 163 Suffolk, GUELPH
>>
>> On May 30, 2018, at 12:33 PM, Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Well, I want a minority and if this keeps up we'll overshoot the mark the
>> way we did Federally.  And look where THAT got us!  I still haven't
>> completely made up my mind, but if splitting the NDP vote with the Greens
>> means a Conservative candidate, in Kitchener Centre I'm okay with that.
>> Not if it means a Doug Ford government of course, but that is looking less
>> likely by the day!  Horwath is up five points and Ford lost five points
>> since the final debate, according to this poll:
>> https://www.macleans.ca/politics/the-macleans-pollara-ontari
>> o-election-poll-the-ndp-lead-keeps-growing/
>>
>> Jenn
>>
>> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 12:27 PM, Catherine Campbell <
>> cdcampbell9 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Voters should vote to get the government that will deliver most closely
>>> the policies they want. Voters don’t know and most never meet their elected
>>> representatives. So who cares about the local candidate. Doug Ford and his
>>> gelding candidates will do what Conservatives always do in office which is
>>> the opposite of my idea of good government. So I voted for Catherine Fife
>>> in Waterloo because she is the only one who can defeat the PC candidate and
>>> his  large number of Conservative Waterloo voters. In KC, I heard last week
>>> that Verneille is polling at 7 percent. So the NDP candidate there is the
>>> best way to avoid Ford’s  $6 billion tax cuts.  The CAA about two months
>>> ago told its members to lobby politicians to quickly fix potholes to save
>>> their precious status symbol vehicles from expensive repairs. The first
>>> step is to vote people to Queens Park who won’t cut $6 billion from the
>>> budget. Who cares that you have to vote NDP in KC instead of Liberal or
>>> Green?
>>>
>>> On May 30, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Catherine Campbell <cdcampbell9 at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Has Dan Weber been avoiding all candidates meetings?
>>>
>>> On May 30, 2018, at 12:03 PM, Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> So far the only one that has attended, as I understand it, is Kitchener
>>> Centre's Mary Henein Thorn.  Who is truly a lovely woman and good on her!!
>>> Too bad her leader is a complete disaster.
>>>
>>> But here's the thing.  We want local representation!  We can't have PR
>>> because our local isn't so local that way, and so we are willing to put up
>>> with all the problems of FPTP just so we can have local representation!!!!!
>>>
>>> The Kitchener Conestoga guy was appointed so even registered PCs may not
>>> have met him.  All the Conservative big signs that I've seen so far,
>>> including this one, do not have the candidates picture on them unlike most
>>> every other party.  And they don't show up in public.  And in this case,
>>> the guy has the same name as the last guy--but its a different guy!  So how
>>> much value does local representation have when you either, have no idea who
>>> this person is, or, think you are voting for someone else?
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 30, 2018 at 11:54 AM, Catherine Campbell <
>>> cdcampbell9 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Did the PC candidate attend. I read in the newspaper that PC candidates
>>>> province wide are avoiding the small candidates meetings. If you people
>>>> want to prevent a leader becoming premier and his party with policies
>>>> contrary to Fair Vote, go vote today, Wednesday, May 30 at the advance
>>>> polls which are open until 8pm. Stop talking about reforming elections and
>>>> go vote in this election.
>>>>
>>>> On May 30, 2018, at 7:33 AM, Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> can you believe I forgot to go ... and it was on my calendar ....
>>>> arggggggh
>>>>
>>>> On 28 May 2018 at 22:20, Sharon Sommerville <
>>>> sharonsommerville at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello FairVoters,
>>>>>
>>>>> The third All Candidates Meeting will be tomorrow night in Waterloo.
>>>>> So far the turn out and response to the discussion format has been
>>>>> tremendous.  Tomorrow evening we will be talking about Income Security,
>>>>> Housing, the Environment, Health Care and Democratic Reform.
>>>>>
>>>>> Join us at 6 pm at First United Church ( William & King) for an
>>>>> engaging & important evening.
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>> Sharon
>>>>>
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