[fvc-wat-disc] Even NDP win won't stop Ford

Stephanie Janzen-Martin stephanie at janzenmartin.net
Tue Jun 5 10:56:55 EDT 2018


Hi all,

I agree that a "wrong winner" could help nudge towards PR, but it's a
pretty rough way to get there. :) I'd much rather find a way to avoid a
disaster like that - and simply point out to people what could have
happened, rather than living through having another Ford in office. :)

I'm feeling a bit desperate, but hopeful that enough other progressive
votes will feel the same way, and we'll tip the balance in enough close
ridings to make a difference.

SJM


On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 11:21 PM Sharon Sommerville <
sharonsommerville at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you Eleanor.  The interview is certainly enlightening &
> discouraging.  If this election produces a "Wrong winner" government, some
> people will begin to understand that the electoral system delivered the
> Ford win, not the voters.  Cold comfort but may, in the long run, be
> helpful for some to finally recognize that electoral reform as an important
> necessity.
>
> Ms. Kelly spoke about the kind of issue that might affect Ford's support
> in the last 6 days of the election; could Renate Ford's lawsuit be that
> issue? Perhaps in combination with the PC candidate who is being accused of
> threatening 19 Tamils in his riding?  Or am I grasping desperately at
> straws?
>
> And despite Ms. Kelly's explanation I don't understand how Poli works and
> how accurate has Poli's projections proven to be in recent elections?
> Traditional polls have proven themselves to be unreliable of late.
>
> Hopefully yours,
> Sharon
>
> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 5:28 PM, Eleanor Grant <eleanor7000 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello Fair Voters:
>>
>> Have you been watching poll analyst Erin Kelly on TVO The Agenda? She
>> claims that even if the NDP wins the popular vote, there will still be a
>> Ford majority of 20 seats because of the efficiency of the PC vote. People
>> aren't grasping this!
>>
>> See if this link works for Erin's June 1 interview with Steve Paikin:
>>  https://t.co/c2DI3YFzMw?amp=1
>> It's a must-see.
>>
>> I'm imagining the rage Ontarians will feel Friday morning if NDP is
>> solidly ahead in popular vote but we're stuck with Ford for 4 yrs.
>>
>> NDP would have to be 5+ points ahead of PCs to win. Why we need PR.
>>
>> Eleanor
>>
>>
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