[fvc-wat-disc] Even NDP win won't stop Ford

[Jennifer Ross]

It's important to remember that in 2015 at this time, we were pretty sure
we had achieved the minority we were aiming for.  But we overshot that
significantly, so maybe this time we overshoot the Ford government into a
Horwath minority!

On Tue, Jun 5, 2018 at 10:56 AM, Stephanie Janzen-Martin <
stephanie at janzenmartin.net> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I agree that a "wrong winner" could help nudge towards PR, but it's a
> pretty rough way to get there. :) I'd much rather find a way to avoid a
> disaster like that - and simply point out to people what could have
> happened, rather than living through having another Ford in office. :)
>
> I'm feeling a bit desperate, but hopeful that enough other progressive
> votes will feel the same way, and we'll tip the balance in enough close
> ridings to make a difference.
>
> SJM
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 11:21 PM Sharon Sommerville <
> sharonsommerville at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Eleanor.  The interview is certainly enlightening &
>> discouraging.  If this election produces a "Wrong winner" government, some
>> people will begin to understand that the electoral system delivered the
>> Ford win, not the voters.  Cold comfort but may, in the long run, be
>> helpful for some to finally recognize that electoral reform as an important
>> necessity.
>>
>> Ms. Kelly spoke about the kind of issue that might affect Ford's support
>> in the last 6 days of the election; could Renate Ford's lawsuit be that
>> issue? Perhaps in combination with the PC candidate who is being accused of
>> threatening 19 Tamils in his riding?  Or am I grasping desperately at
>> straws?
>>
>> And despite Ms. Kelly's explanation I don't understand how Poli works
>> and how accurate has Poli's projections proven to be in recent elections?
>> Traditional polls have proven themselves to be unreliable of late.
>>
>> Hopefully yours,
>> Sharon
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 5:28 PM, Eleanor Grant <eleanor7000 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Fair Voters:
>>>
>>> Have you been watching poll analyst Erin Kelly on TVO The Agenda? She
>>> claims that even if the NDP wins the popular vote, there will still be a
>>> Ford majority of 20 seats because of the efficiency of the PC vote. People
>>> aren't grasping this!
>>>
>>> See if this link works for Erin's June 1 interview with Steve Paikin:
>>>  https://t.co/c2DI3YFzMw?amp=1
>>> It's a must-see.
>>>
>>> I'm imagining the rage Ontarians will feel Friday morning if NDP is
>>> solidly ahead in popular vote but we're stuck with Ford for 4 yrs.
>>>
>>> NDP would have to be 5+ points ahead of PCs to win. Why we need PR.
>>>
>>> Eleanor
>>>
>>>
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