[fvc-wat-disc] letter to BC newspapers

[Jennifer Ross]

This part from Real, in introducing it:
I came across this very interesting article in the Guardian and was struck
by the title. The title seemed a bit partisan for our taste, but the
message is not - con tricks have to do with the interests of the voter, not
partisan perspectives, and the IMF can hardly be considered a leftish
source. So I looked deeper. The link to the IMF report is in the article,
and you can find the data there in Excel format. Look at the numbers in
Table A8 under the column for 2018. You'll see very quickly that the UK and
the US don't do very well in terms of public debt management. Who does best
of all? Norway, Denmark, Switzerland, Korea, Sweden, New Zealand, Iceland
and Korea. Every one of these is a strongly proportional country. There are
exceptions, like Belgium and Portugal, and Canada itself is up there with
the good guys (although not as good as the pro rep countries cited), but
the pattern is fairly clear. It helps to consider that other poor
performers like Japan, Italy and Spain are actually semi-proportional
countries (see the Gallagher index for these countries), so one does not
want to cite those as examples of pro rep. I just tweeted about this from
the FVC twitter account. Feel free to share widely!

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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/oct/17/economic-lies-neoliberalism-taxpayers?CMP=share_btn_fb

Jenn
Bookkeeping Services
519-501-2736
No other Western democratic country concentrates as much political power in
the hands of one person as Canada does with her Prime Minister.


On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 9:01 AM Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com> wrote:

> There is nonsense like that daily.  In fact, Fraser Institute went all out
> yesterday, I think, and there were three pieces of nonsense published in
> various places.
>
> There was also something about how right-wing "cost efficiencies" over
> time are making deficits larger because they are selling off assets to
> achieve them.  I didn't share that interesting bit of economics because it
> just sounded so "lefty" but it is a real eye-opener.  If I find it again
> I'll post it here.
>
> Sadly, they really are confusing people all over BC.  Referendums suck.  I
> have high hopes for Quebec!!
>
> Jenn
> Bookkeeping Services
> 519-501-2736
> No other Western democratic country concentrates as much political power in
> the hands of one person as Canada does with her Prime Minister.
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 8:55 AM Dave Arthur <arthurd23 at bell.net> wrote:
>
>> Check out this article in today’s Vancouver Sun written by a prof at U of
>> Windsor, Ontario, also a member of the Fraser Institute.
>>
>> It’s not encouraging.
>>
>> Dave A
>>
>>
>>
>> Lydia Miljan: The costs of changing the way British Columbians vote
>> The research is clear — a move from its current first-past-the-post
>> electoral system to a proportional system would likely increase both
>> government spending and deficits in B.C. When voting in the electoral
>> reform referendum, British Columbians should understand the consequences of
>> changing the way they vote.
>>
>> https://vancouversun.com/opinion/op-ed/lydia-miljan-the-costs-of-changing-the-way-british-columbians-vote
>>
>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
>> Windows 10
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>>
>>
>> *From: *Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com>
>> *Sent: *Wednesday, October 17, 2018 6:02 PM
>> *To: *FVC Waterloo Region Discussion <fvc-wat-disc at listserv.thinkers.org>
>> *Subject: *Re: [fvc-wat-disc] letter to BC newspapers
>>
>>
>>
>> Yeah, I don't think so.  One of the No sides great messages is that
>> everything will be decided by Vancouver, so to have it decided by Ontario
>> would just be that much worse.  But what you CAN do is sign up for the
>> telephone GOTV that's going on.  Which I don't have the information at my
>> fingertips but if you are interested and have some time starting the 22nd,
>> I think, there is training available by video now and I can connect you to
>> well, Anita, who might be reading this anyway.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jenn
>>
>> Bookkeeping Services
>>
>> 519-501-2736
>>
>> No other Western democratic country concentrates as much political power
>> in the hands of one person as Canada does with her Prime Minister.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 17, 2018 at 5:11 PM Dave Arthur <arthurd23 at bell.net> wrote:
>>
>> I think we have all been closely following the BC referendum and been
>> very concerned with the lies being said about PR.
>>
>> Anita has told us about the website attempting to give citizens the facts
>> and was hacked.
>>
>> I have checked out the Vancouver Sun and Victoria Times-Colonist and read
>> op-eds and letters for and against.
>>
>> We are told it’s close and could go either way.
>>
>> I know voteprbc is doing all they can with the resources they have.
>>
>> I wish there was more we could do.
>>
>> I would like to try to send a letter to these two papers.
>>
>> I have no idea how a letter from someone in Ontario would be accepted.
>>
>> Comments?
>>
>> Dave A
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> To our fellow Canadians living in British Columbia.
>> You are our hope for electoral system change.  We were very disappointed
>> and angry when Justin Trudeau ignored the overwhelming evidence and support
>> for proportional representation presented to his committee and at town
>> halls, and then reneged on his promise.  We ask that you separate facts
>> from fictions about PR.  When 90% of EU and OECD countries use PR, when
>> countries like New Zealand, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland and others
>> have moved from FPTP to PR, when no countries have moved the other way, and
>> when PR is proven to provide more cooperation, consensus, long range
>> planning, civility, effective voting as well as local representation for
>> everyone, and actually reduces the chance of an extreme party gaining a
>> false majority, PR is clearly the best choice. Please vote for PR.
>>
>> David Arthur,
>>
>> Kitchener, Ontario
>>
>>
>>
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