[fvc-wat-disc] Material for door to door discussions

[Jennifer Ross]

Hi Jay.  There is a discussion going on on the Fair Vote Canada discussion
list on pretty much exactly this topic right this minute.  Would you like
to join the googlegroup

pr_discussion_group at googlegroups.com
and post it there as well?  It would seem to be under Thread Discipline,
which right away tells you how successful that's been, LOL.  You might want
to please the guy and start a new subject line of "Material for door to
door discussions"

Jenn
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On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 4:09 PM Catherine Campbell <cdcampbell9 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Great idea
>
> On Aug 15, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Jay Judkowitz <judkowitz at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> FairVoters,
>
>      I had to explain PR to my 10 year old daughter after our last meeting
> and came up with this two tab spreadsheet (which can easily be printed out
> on a single sheet 8.5x11 sheet of paper - one tab per side).  I was
> thinking that something like this could help us guide door to door
> conversations if we decide to take that route.  I'd love your feedback on
> this idea generally, and the content specifically.
>
>      Tab 1
> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xyUjwYo6TpwejEdCXbSxm11ooXFACKQAFIoZ3_mMqrg/edit#gid=1710981120> is
> a setup.  It's the results of an election in a mythical country with 11
> ridings and 21,000 people in each riding.  Each cell is 1000 votes.  Tab 1
> asks four questions of the listener about what they thought would be fair
> and democratic.  There is no pitch for PR at this point and no criticism of
> FPTP.  Just try to get people's gut feel on the questions.  (My daughter's
> gut feel on what would be fair and good aligned with our values for PR)
>
>      Tab 2
> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xyUjwYo6TpwejEdCXbSxm11ooXFACKQAFIoZ3_mMqrg/edit#gid=0> is
> the results with FPTP and PR.  It shows the distortion of FPTP and explains
> why that's bad.  And, the whole 39% of the votes = 100% of the power is
> exactly what happened in 2011 and 2015 as we know.  Now presumably, the
> listeners answered the questions reasonably in the first tab and will be
> shocked by the results in the second tab.  Then we explain how PR can get
> more closely aligned to their expectations of fairness and democracy.
>
>       What do you think of that approach of engaging with people -
> starting with the questions and letting them come to the conclusion that
> FPTP sucks on their own?
>
> Thanks,
> Jay
>
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