[fvc-wat-disc] would you be intersted in working with

[R.D.K]

 Lowering the voting age to 16 borders on irresponsible at best and is immediately obvious as a 'backdoor' way of subverting the concept of democracy based upon an informed electorate in order to further intrench leftist ideas by harnessing the well meaning but often poorly informed idealists. 

"Show me a conservative young man, I'll show you a man with no heart
Show me a old liberal and I'll show you a man without brains" 

We know that good judgement comes from maturity and the science is united that this doesn't occur till late 20's ....

If anything....the arguement should be for increasing the voter age.....not lowering it

R.D.

     On Wednesday, May 19, 2021, 11:15:12 a.m. EDT, Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com> wrote:  
 
 Hi everyone, can I be on the discussion list as well as the whatever it was that I'm supposed to send my email to David Dirks?  (sorry, forgot!  Please consider me for that.)  Thanks, Peter!

Unlock Democracy is Dave Meslin, so he is in part already an ally (then again he's also the ranked ballot in Single Member Pluralities advocate, so in that respect an opponent, but I'm hopeful the Unlock Democracy part is more ally than opponent--NOT SURE!)
I believe Fair Vote Canada has reached out to Senator McPhedran but I have no details in my brain.
JennBookkeeping Services519-501-2736
No other Western democratic country concentrates as much political power in the hands of one person as Canada does with her Prime Minister. 

On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 10:48 AM Peter Croves <petercroves at gmail.com> wrote:

oh, these are the only emails I have, you were going to send me the others when you got them!,so if all is ok with it!. and I can find the letter again!. do you want me to send the letter to  UNLOCK Democracy Canada?--yes Senators can put forward bills just as MP's, the only real difference between them is all bills must go to the Senate for approval and any bill from an MP or Senator  is read, debated and can be changed before it goes to a final vote after three readings in its finale from, once a bill passes the Senate, it becomes Law and goes to the GG for Royal  approval, in theory, the GG has the right to reject a law if it's deemed not in the interests of the Nation, but in practice, the GG Just puts the Royal stamp on the bill[paper] to make it official, I think the last time a GG rejected a Law was in the 1930s and that kick off the PM so much, he calls an election on the issue[with the ok of the GG, as the PM cannot call an election without the ok of the GG, during the election, most agreed with the view point of the PM and in throy[paitace], since then the GG must go along with anylaw and do what the PM wants[but by law the GG still has the right to not give royal approve  to a law and can say no to a PM,if the PM wants an election and the GG has the right to dismiss the PM from office and ask another of the  rulingparty or another party leader to from a government[i think the last time that happened was in the 1920's]if the said person cannot from a government or has not the support of the house,then another election must be called[case excample-Isreal] also  at one time, Senators could serve as PM and party leader,but am not sure that is allowed anymore?.. I know that at one time one could be an MPP and MP at the same time[case point the 2nd PM]but in the 1870s or 1880's'that was made illegal and those at the time, had to chose which office to give up and which to keep!. He chose to give up his ONT MPP seat and keep his federal ONT seat--he is the one who created the  Royal Canadian Mounted Police, as known since 1920[ formerly (until 1920) northwest Mounted Police, by name, Mounties, Canada's federal police force. It is also the provincial and criminal police establishment in all provinces except Ontario and Quebec and the only police force in the Yukon and Northwest territories.
On Wed, May 19, 2021 at 7:11 AM Myron Steinman <2mdsteinm at gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Peter Croves,
Yes lowering the voter age to 16 is also a form of electoral reform, and yes they may be open to other  forms of electoral reform including a mixed form of proportional representation.Yes, Unlock Democracy Canada and Senator MaryLou  McPhedran and Senate bill (S-209) may be someone to join forces with our cause of Proportional Representation.
I was unaware Senators could propose bills?
What do others with FVC-WR think?I observe not everyone is included with this email link?
Respectfully,Myron Steinman
On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 12:53 PM Peter Croves <petercroves at gmail.com> wrote:



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Date: Sun, May 16, 2021 at 12:50 PM
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hosting the event, featuring Senator Marilou McPhedran. Her Senate bill (S-209) would lower the voting age to 16 for all federal elections in Canada.-they may be someone  to  reach out to

On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 12:47 PM Peter Croves <petercroves at gmail.com> wrote:


Unlock Democracy Canada--Unlock Democracy is a proud partner of Canada's --#Vote16 campaign. #Vote16 campaign



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