[fvc-wat-disc] Re: Waterloo FVC group

Wed Aug 1 00:15:43 EDT 2007

Thank you for your feedback, Steve.  As a matter of fact, I have made a few
presentations to local councils taking exactly the approach you suggested
with some positive results.  Specifically, we have two councils in our area
that have circulated referendum information to their employees and the
public.  I am in the process of following up with the other councils to see
if they will yet come on board with the cause of spreading information.
Even if councils have not started disseminating information, no one has
reacted badly to the presentations because they have been focused on the
notion of the civic duty to inform the public, not a sales pitch for one
side.

Angela Yenssen

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[mailto:fvc-wat-disc-bounces at listserv.thinkers.org] On Behalf Of Steve
Withers
Sent: July 31, 2007 11:08 PM
To: Jason Hammond
Cc: FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
Subject: Re: [fvc-wat-disc] Re: Waterloo FVC group

All

The Vote for MMP Council looked at seeking Council endorsements.  

They decided that asks to Councils would be best limited to aiding the
information campaign and informing voters....rather than supporting MMP
directly. 

The reasoning was this: 

1. Don't ask for an endorsement UNLESS you have already canvassed all
Councilors and KNOW you will have enough support to get it. 

2. Getting these endorsements will take a lot of time probably best directed
at recruiting volunteers and raising money. Ottawa spent WEEKS on this and
was turned down. 

3. If we get a few endorsements it might get the anti-MMP folk who actually
sit on many Councils to seek endorsements of FPTP....and we might lose that
pissing contest. 

Of course, you can do what you like.....but keep these issues clearly in
view. The downside of failure is significant. 

Steve 

On 7/31/07, Jason Hammond <ygcjason at gmail.com> wrote:

Derek,

  Have we considered approaching Councils for an endorsement of MMP?  I
would be happy to make (or be a part of) the presentations, having made
delegations before, and knowing some of the folks around the horseshoe from
my own Regional Councillor campaign last fall.  If successful, I would
approach the AMO (Association of Municipalities of Ontario) to expand this
effort. 

Peace,

Jason Hammond

On 7/31/07, Derek Kraan <derek.kraan at gmail.com > wrote: 

I should point out that the scope of our organization extends far beyond the
University of Waterloo. Actually, I am now the only student on the
executive. Our organization is responsible for the entire Waterloo Region,
which includes Cambridge. Our intent in meeting with your group is to make
sure we both know what the other group is doing so that we can avoid
duplication of work. For instance, we plan to present to the Cambridge City
Council, and have already made presentations to the township councils and
Waterloo City Council. Regional Council is also in the works. 

We think it's great that a group has sprung up in Cambridge, but we really
need to function as a single group to be effective. If we both show up at
these council meetings, they're not going to know who's who and our message
will not be as strong. 

Derek

2007/7/31, Alan Angold <AlanAngold at rogers.com>: 

Hi Angela,

    Donna has given her OK.  I'll be going to the meeting myself and can
take up to six other people in my van.  Let me know if you'd like a ride and
I can pick up the crowd at the university if that's convenient. 

Take care,
/Alan

PS. This is my second attempt at sending this message.  Managed to send it
to the "bounces" address by accident.  Previous message was CC'ed to Donna
Reid.

Angela Yenssen  <mailto:ayenssen at rogers.com> <ayenssen at rogers.com> wrote:
Thanks for your help, Alan.  Please confirm with us that a member of the FVC
Waterloo Region Chapter can attend the Aug. 13 th meeting of Donna's group. 

Donna Reid wrote:

No objections. We are all on the same team and want to help as best we can.
Please invite them to our August 13th mtg. at the Zehrs community room.

Donna

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Alan Angold <mailto:AlanAngold at rogers.com>  

To: Donna Reid <mailto:donna-reid at sympatico.ca>  

<snip>

Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 12:13 AM 

Subject: Waterloo FVC group

Hello all,

    There is a Waterloo FVC group of students that recently mentioned Donna
and this 
group in their email messages.  They seem to be interested in getting in
touch.  I though
it would be a good idea to get them down to the next meeting. 

    I was also wanting to send some of our email their way (if they are
willing as well) so 
they could pick up on some of the good ideas developed here.

    What do people think of these two ideas?   Are there any objections to
either? 

/Alan

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