[fvc-wat-disc] Re: Waterloo FVC group

Wed Aug 1 00:59:07 EDT 2007

Good point, Angela.  Keeping the Council focus on education seems the wisest
choice.  Glad the discussion cleared it up.

On 8/1/07, Angela Yenssen <ayenssen at rogers.com> wrote:
>
>  Thank you for your feedback, Steve.  As a matter of fact, I have made a
> few presentations to local councils taking exactly the approach you
> suggested with some positive results.  Specifically, we have two councils in
> our area that have circulated referendum information to their employees and
> the public.  I am in the process of following up with the other councils to
> see if they will yet come on board with the cause of spreading information.
> Even if councils have not started disseminating information, no one has
> reacted badly to the presentations because they have been focused on the
> notion of the civic duty to inform the public, not a sales pitch for one
> side.
>
> Angela Yenssen
>
>
>  ------------------------------
>
> *From:* fvc-wat-disc-bounces at listserv.thinkers.org [mailto:
> fvc-wat-disc-bounces at listserv.thinkers.org] *On Behalf Of *Steve Withers
> *Sent:* July 31, 2007 11:08 PM
> *To:* Jason Hammond
> *Cc:* FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
> *Subject:* Re: [fvc-wat-disc] Re: Waterloo FVC group
>
>
>
> All
>
> The Vote for MMP Council looked at seeking Council endorsements.
>
> They decided that asks to Councils would be best limited to aiding the
> information campaign and informing voters....rather than supporting MMP
> directly.
>
> The reasoning was this:
>
> 1. Don't ask for an endorsement UNLESS you have already canvassed all
> Councilors and KNOW you will have enough support to get it.
>
> 2. Getting these endorsements will take a lot of time probably best
> directed at recruiting volunteers and raising money. Ottawa spent WEEKS on
> this and was turned down.
>
> 3. If we get a few endorsements it might get the anti-MMP folk who
> actually sit on many Councils to seek endorsements of FPTP....and we might
> lose that pissing contest.
>
> Of course, you can do what you like.....but keep these issues clearly in
> view. The downside of failure is significant.
>
> Steve
>
>  On 7/31/07, *Jason Hammond* <ygcjason at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Derek,
>
>
>
>   Have we considered approaching Councils for an endorsement of MMP?  I
> would be happy to make (or be a part of) the presentations, having made
> delegations before, and knowing some of the folks around the horseshoe from
> my own Regional Councillor campaign last fall.  If successful, I would
> approach the AMO (Association of Municipalities of Ontario) to expand this
> effort.
>
>
>
> Peace,
>
> Jason Hammond
>
>
>
> On 7/31/07, *Derek Kraan* <derek.kraan at gmail.com > wrote:
>
> I should point out that the scope of our organization extends far beyond
> the University of Waterloo. Actually, I am now the only student on the
> executive. Our organization is responsible for the entire Waterloo Region,
> which includes Cambridge. Our intent in meeting with your group is to make
> sure we both know what the other group is doing so that we can avoid
> duplication of work. For instance, we plan to present to the Cambridge City
> Council, and have already made presentations to the township councils and
> Waterloo City Council. Regional Council is also in the works.
>
> We think it's great that a group has sprung up in Cambridge, but we really
> need to function as a single group to be effective. If we both show up at
> these council meetings, they're not going to know who's who and our message
> will not be as strong.
>
> Derek
>
> 2007/7/31, Alan Angold <AlanAngold at rogers.com>:
>
> Hi Angela,
>
>     Donna has given her OK.  I'll be going to the meeting myself and can
> take up to six other people in my van.  Let me know if you'd like a ride and
> I can pick up the crowd at the university if that's convenient.
>
> Take care,
> /Alan
>
> PS. This is my second attempt at sending this message.  Managed to send it
> to the "bounces" address by accident.  Previous message was CC'ed to Donna
> Reid.
>
> Angela Yenssen <ayenssen at rogers.com> <ayenssen at rogers.com> wrote:
> Thanks for your help, Alan.  Please confirm with us that a member of the
> FVC Waterloo Region Chapter can attend the Aug. 13 th meeting of Donna's
> group.
>
>
> Donna Reid wrote:
>
>  No objections. We are all on the same team and want to help as best we
> can. Please invite them to our August 13th mtg. at the Zehrs community room.
>
> Donna
>
>  ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* Alan Angold <AlanAngold at rogers.com>
>
> *To:* Donna Reid <donna-reid at sympatico.ca>
>
> *<snip>*
>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 31, 2007 12:13 AM
>
> *Subject:* Waterloo FVC group
>
>
>
>
> Hello all,
>
>     There is a Waterloo FVC group of students that recently mentioned
> Donna and this
> group in their email messages.  They seem to be interested in getting in
> touch.  I though
> it would be a good idea to get them down to the next meeting.
>
>     I was also wanting to send some of our email their way (if they are
> willing as well) so
> they could pick up on some of the good ideas developed here.
>
>     What do people think of these two ideas?   Are there any objections to
> either?
>
> /Alan
>
> ..................................................................
>
> Alan Angold  <AlanAngold at rogers.com>
>
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