[fvc-wat-disc] Re: Waterloo FVC group

Tue Jul 31 23:08:05 EDT 2007

All

The Vote for MMP Council looked at seeking Council endorsements.

They decided that asks to Councils would be best limited to aiding the
information campaign and informing voters....rather than supporting MMP
directly.

The reasoning was this:

1. Don't ask for an endorsement UNLESS you have already canvassed all
Councilors and KNOW you will have enough support to get it.

2. Getting these endorsements will take a lot of time probably best directed
at recruiting volunteers and raising money. Ottawa spent WEEKS on this and
was turned down.

3. If we get a few endorsements it might get the anti-MMP folk who actually
sit on many Councils to seek endorsements of FPTP....and we might lose that
pissing contest.

Of course, you can do what you like.....but keep these issues clearly in
view. The downside of failure is significant.

Steve

On 7/31/07, Jason Hammond <ygcjason at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Derek,
>
>   Have we considered approaching Councils for an endorsement of MMP?  I
> would be happy to make (or be a part of) the presentations, having made
> delegations before, and knowing some of the folks around the horseshoe from
> my own Regional Councillor campaign last fall.  If successful, I would
> approach the AMO (Association of Municipalities of Ontario) to expand this
> effort.
>
> Peace,
> Jason Hammond
>
>
> On 7/31/07, Derek Kraan <derek.kraan at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I should point out that the scope of our organization extends far beyond
> > the University of Waterloo. Actually, I am now the only student on the
> > executive. Our organization is responsible for the entire Waterloo Region,
> > which includes Cambridge. Our intent in meeting with your group is to make
> > sure we both know what the other group is doing so that we can avoid
> > duplication of work. For instance, we plan to present to the Cambridge City
> > Council, and have already made presentations to the township councils and
> > Waterloo City Council. Regional Council is also in the works.
> >
> > We think it's great that a group has sprung up in Cambridge, but we
> > really need to function as a single group to be effective. If we both show
> > up at these council meetings, they're not going to know who's who and our
> > message will not be as strong.
> >
> > Derek
> >
> > 2007/7/31, Alan Angold <AlanAngold at rogers.com>:
> > >
> > >  Hi Angela,
> > >
> > >     Donna has given her OK.  I'll be going to the meeting myself and
> > > can take up to six other people in my van.  Let me know if you'd like a ride
> > > and I can pick up the crowd at the university if that's convenient.
> > >
> > > Take care,
> > > /Alan
> > >
> > > PS. This is my second attempt at sending this message.  Managed to
> > > send it to the "bounces" address by accident.  Previous message was CC'ed to
> > > Donna Reid.
> > >
> > > **Angela Yenssen <ayenssen at rogers.com> <ayenssen at rogers.com> wrote:
> > > Thanks for your help, Alan.  Please confirm with us that a member of
> > > the FVC Waterloo Region Chapter can attend the Aug. 13 th meeting of
> > > Donna's group.
> > >
> > >
> > > Donna Reid wrote:
> > >
> > > No objections. We are all on the same team and want to help as best we
> > > can. Please invite them to our August 13th mtg. at the Zehrs community room.
> > > Donna
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > *From:* Alan Angold <AlanAngold at rogers.com>
> > > *To:* Donna Reid <donna-reid at sympatico.ca>
> > > *<snip>
> > > *
> > > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 31, 2007 12:13 AM
> > > *Subject:* Waterloo FVC group
> > >
> > >
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > >     There is a Waterloo FVC group of students that recently mentioned
> > > Donna and this
> > > group in their email messages.  They seem to be interested in getting
> > > in touch.  I though
> > > it would be a good idea to get them down to the next meeting.
> > >
> > >     I was also wanting to send some of our email their way (if they
> > > are willing as well) so
> > > they could pick up on some of the good ideas developed here.
> > >
> > >     What do people think of these two ideas?   Are there any
> > > objections to either?
> > >
> > > /Alan
> > >
> > > ..................................................................
> > > Alan Angold
> > > <AlanAngold at rogers.com> <AlanAngold at rogers.com>
> > > 549 Sandbrooke Court, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2T 2H4
> > > Home:(519) 747-5535
> > >
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