[fvc-wat-disc] Monsef no electoral reform.

[Anita Nickerson]

The Conservatives don't support PR. But they acknowledge what is plainly in
audio transcripts - that most people who testified before the committee
spoke for PR.

So...they alternative to FPTP in a referendum they say should be PR, not AV.

We already had 4 referendums with that idea so they're not giving us
anything here by acknowlelging that.

They could pretend to be officially neutral during a referendum which is
somewhat of a joke when their MPs and media will be doing the anti-PR
talking.

Anita

On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 12:14 AM, Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Listening carefully to this interview ...
>
>  Evan cornered Monsef on
>
> 1. all the committee members except Liberals (wow Cons?) say they have
> heard that the people want PR ... so what if the committee recommends PR?
> ... she will take it seriously ... but said she knows what she heard,
> implying that she has heard differently ... which we all dispute
> 2. what if the committee recommends a referendum ... she doesn't like
> referenda because not enough people participate and they are divisive ...
> (I don't want a referendum but for different reasons (voter apathy re
> educating themselves first))
> 3. if you don't listen to the committee and don't have a referendum how
> will you determine the broad consensus that you seek? ... she mentioned the
> mail-out question and called it a 'digital' ask ... I guess that means we
> respond online.
>
> In summary ... we aren't getting it, no matter what the indications are.
>
> In the back of my mind, I still have the idea that the Liberal machine
> wants to enjoy a couple of majorities and THEN we might get it when it
> looks like power is fading ... Even if they were to get a surprise
> minority, they could always count on NDP and Green support for PR. I would
> rather have that than get a non-PR solution now.
>
> But I just can't fathom Conservative support for PR ... can you? ... they
> will never ever get another majority ... I just don't believe it.
>
> On 27 November 2016 at 21:39, Sharon Sommerville <
> sharonsommerville at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Sean, she will not accept any responsibility for the LPC campaign
>> promise. Her interview with Don Martin wasn't so definitive & a little more
>> hopeful.
>>
>> Broad support?  How about leadership?  Never a mention of the nature,
>> role & responsibilities of leadership.  We didn't elect the LPC to
>> reflect what Cdns. think about ER, we elected them to lead on this
>> issue.  It is what they promised to do and they should be held accountable
>> for it.
>>
>> Sharon
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 27, 2016 at 8:22 PM, haberlin at gmail.com <haberlin at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/no-electoral-reform-until-eno
>>> ugh-canadians-want-it-monsef-says-1.3177209
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> So no reform this time around.  However, media outlets have begun
>>> casting PR in a favorable light, the Tories have shown support for PR and
>>> in the next election there is the opportunity to point to the perfidious
>>> nature of Liberal promises as a launching point for PR.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Cordially
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sean B. Haberlin
>>>
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