[fvc-wat-disc] Results of the mydemocracy.ca survey are available

Jennifer Ross 2jennross at gmail.com
Tue Jan 24 23:00:56 EST 2017


And, there is a clear consensus on coalition governance!

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 10:58 PM, Anita Nickerson <anitann88 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> So far now Jenn and I are a fan club of two in a sea of people calling the
> results crap.
>
> I know the survey was bad - I wrote the guide to navigate the awful
> questions.
>
> But what's crap right now is the way the media is spinning it. It reminds
> me of the BC STV referendum - 58% said yes but STV was "rejected". Really?
>
> "Survey says Canadians love our system!" says the media!
>
> They weren't even ASKED about our system. If they were asked how many like
> FPTP I'm sure the usual 30-40% would say "great stuff".
>
> What Canadians love - according to mydemocracy.ca which probably 300,000
> people - is *MULTI-PARTY governments that have to make legislation
> together. *Seriously, that's what it says. About four questions all
> reinforcing that.
>
> People also said they want to express their preferences even if it takes
> longer for ballots to be counted and they want more diversity of views in
> Parliament.
>
> Even that awful question - "do you want a few big parties or many small
> parties" - what a stupid choice which reminds me of "do you want stability
> or a big zoo of wingdings" - 41% of people said they want "many small
> parties." I couldn't imagine more than 20% saying that. That 41% said "many
> small parties" is not a stat I'd make a poster of but I think it's
> significant.
>
> My own opinion is, the survey was designed with skewed questions probably
> so the gov't could say "no consensus" and "look, people don't want change".
> It came back loud and clear that people think we can do better than 39%
> majorities.
>
> Anita
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 9:13 PM, Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I don't know what TL:DR means, but I did read the very clear and
>> unequivocal call for coalition governments--three different questions, all
>> three were in the 70% range for it.  I did read where people don't really
>> care how long it takes to count the ballots as long as they have choice on
>> the ballots.  I read a bunch of things that were slightly one way or the
>> other, but for the most part, I thought it was remarkably in our favour!
>>
>> I frankly don't understand why people are crapping on it.
>>
>> Tomorrow will be a great discussion night!
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:52 PM, Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com> wrote:
>>
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>>> The results of the mydemocracy.ca survey have been published:
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>>> https://www.canada.ca/en/campaign/electoral-reform/learn-abo
>>> ut-canadian-federal-electoral-reform/mydemocracyca-online-
>>> digital-consultation-engagement-platform.html
>>>
>>> TL;DR: No electoral reform for us.
>>>
>>> - --Bob.
>>>
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