[fvc-wat-disc] Results of the mydemocracy.ca survey are available

Anita Nickerson anitann88 at gmail.com
Tue Jan 24 23:10:46 EST 2017


I love that phrase - "clear consensus" 😋

My other new favourite phrase is "realistic timeline".

Those combat the two latest excuses we are hearing consistently from MPs.

On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 11:00 PM, Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com> wrote:

> And, there is a clear consensus on coalition governance!
>
> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 10:58 PM, Anita Nickerson <anitann88 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> So far now Jenn and I are a fan club of two in a sea of people calling
>> the results crap.
>>
>> I know the survey was bad - I wrote the guide to navigate the awful
>> questions.
>>
>> But what's crap right now is the way the media is spinning it. It reminds
>> me of the BC STV referendum - 58% said yes but STV was "rejected". Really?
>>
>> "Survey says Canadians love our system!" says the media!
>>
>> They weren't even ASKED about our system. If they were asked how many
>> like FPTP I'm sure the usual 30-40% would say "great stuff".
>>
>> What Canadians love - according to mydemocracy.ca which probably 300,000
>> people - is *MULTI-PARTY governments that have to make legislation
>> together. *Seriously, that's what it says. About four questions all
>> reinforcing that.
>>
>> People also said they want to express their preferences even if it takes
>> longer for ballots to be counted and they want more diversity of views in
>> Parliament.
>>
>> Even that awful question - "do you want a few big parties or many small
>> parties" - what a stupid choice which reminds me of "do you want stability
>> or a big zoo of wingdings" - 41% of people said they want "many small
>> parties." I couldn't imagine more than 20% saying that. That 41% said "many
>> small parties" is not a stat I'd make a poster of but I think it's
>> significant.
>>
>> My own opinion is, the survey was designed with skewed questions probably
>> so the gov't could say "no consensus" and "look, people don't want change".
>> It came back loud and clear that people think we can do better than 39%
>> majorities.
>>
>> Anita
>>
>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 9:13 PM, Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't know what TL:DR means, but I did read the very clear and
>>> unequivocal call for coalition governments--three different questions, all
>>> three were in the 70% range for it.  I did read where people don't really
>>> care how long it takes to count the ballots as long as they have choice on
>>> the ballots.  I read a bunch of things that were slightly one way or the
>>> other, but for the most part, I thought it was remarkably in our favour!
>>>
>>> I frankly don't understand why people are crapping on it.
>>>
>>> Tomorrow will be a great discussion night!
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 24, 2017 at 8:52 PM, Bob Jonkman <bjonkman at sobac.com> wrote:
>>>
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>>>> The results of the mydemocracy.ca survey have been published:
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>>>> https://www.canada.ca/en/campaign/electoral-reform/learn-abo
>>>> ut-canadian-federal-electoral-reform/mydemocracyca-online-di
>>>> gital-consultation-engagement-platform.html
>>>>
>>>> TL;DR: No electoral reform for us.
>>>>
>>>> - --Bob.
>>>>
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