[fvc-wat-disc] GREEN-NDP alliance?

[Anita Nickerson]

I don't really blame Fuhr for voting no to that particular motion.

What I do blame him for is not doing anything else.

When you promise to be an advocate for PR in Parliament, what does that
mean? You say later you had a nice conversation with someone in the
bathroom?

He had 4 years to do something meaningful to honour that agreement.

Anita

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 11:30 AM Matthew Piggott <piggott.matthew at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Yes, these sort of discussions are exactly why we need electoral reform.
>
> In terms of the agreement out west, in addition to the items Jonathan
> mentioned, I do note that the Liberal who was on the receiving end of the "
> "pre-election alliance" didn't even bother to vote in favour of the ERRE
> committee report. These deals are suspect to me in principle, and that
> action absolutely took it off the table.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Matthew Piggott
>
> El mar., 30 abr. 2019 a las 11:03, David dirks (<daviddirks at rogers.com>)
> escribió:
>
>> Is this not why we need/want electoral reform so as not to be in a
>> position like this?
>>
>> David
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 30, 2019, 9:08:24 AM EDT, Jonathan Cassels <
>> cassels.jon at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> None at all, in my opinion. They can't merge, the Green constitution
>> makes that virtually impossible, as it requires 90% support and a majority
>> vote at a party convention -- something they don't have time to do before
>> the election, even if they had a hope of passing. By law, they can't
>> coordinate during the election. And I'm unsure what a "pre-election
>> alliance" would look like. They both advocate for environmental policy and
>> election reform today, saying "We are now allied in advocating for the
>> things we already advocated for" doesn't really change the status quo.
>>
>> In theory, Green local riding associations (which have *way* more
>> freedom than the NDP equivalent) could individually opt not to run
>> candidates in this election. There was one out west somewhere who chose to
>> do that in 2015 to help the ABC movement. But that can't be coordinated,
>> and it's unclear that a majority of Green supporters would go to the NDP in
>> most ridings.
>>
>> The Maclean's article is a cynical attempt to collect clicks by arguing
>> in favour of something which has some surface level appeal, but which the
>> author knows is a practical impossibility.
>>
>> Unless there's some manner in which the parties could help one another
>> which I haven't thought of?
>>
>> On Tue., Apr. 30, 2019, 7:09 a.m. Kevin Smith, <kevedsmith at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> So an article in Maclean's is saying that NDP and Greens combined would
>> win a large number of seats, and hold whoever wins to a minority.
>>
>> I know the parties have major differences, but a pre-election alliance
>> around Green New Deal and electoral reform would have potential, no?
>>
>> Kevin.
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