[fvc-wat-disc] Video of Final NDP Leadership Debate in Vancouver

Donald Fraser donaldafraser at gmail.com
Wed Sep 13 18:04:37 EDT 2017


still in limbo re leadership vote ... let's not keep it a secret ... who is
voting for whom?

On 12 September 2017 at 12:01, Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com>
wrote:

> After reading *http://www.fairvote.ca/ndp-leadership-race/
> <http://www.fairvote.ca/ndp-leadership-race/> *on Anita's post, I don't
> like Charlie's promise of a referendum after 2 terms of PR ... New Zealand
> did that because the National Party had committed to do so before the
> election ... I don't trust the Canadian electorate to inform themselves
> even after 2 terms ... if MMPR is in the platform, then election gives the
> mandate, although one might argue that it only holds if a party WINS the
> election.
>
> Once MMPR is implemented, it can still be reversed without a referendum IF
> the electorate elected a majority C or L government ... not likely, but
> possible, so nobody can claim that there is no way out.
>
> On 12 September 2017 at 11:47, Donald Fraser <donaldafraser at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dave, in answer to your question about 'sources' ... I was referring to
>> my political mentors, Jenn and Sharon, who do a lot of research ... not to
>> a sinister guy in an underground parking garage ... I'm not super connected
>> to any anonymous sources ... BTW one of the TIFF movies stars Liam Neeson
>> playing "Deep Throat" in the Watergate Crisis ... it will be good.
>>
>> On 10 September 2017 at 20:08, Dave Arthur <arthurd23 at bell.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I watched the whole debate at the NDP event at the Duke of Wellington.
>>> I was disappointed that the PR question was brief and only involved
>>> Singh and Caron.
>>> We’re left wondering what the others’ commitments are .
>>> Has Fairvote done a thorough study of the four candidates’ stances and
>>> plans to move PR along?
>>> Don, you say from all sources Caron is the most committed.
>>> Is there agreement on that?
>>> And, while all four said similar, good things about many issues, who is
>>> most likely to capture Canadians’ attention and confidence?
>>> Is there another Jack Layton out there?
>>> Dave A
>>>
>>> *From:* Donald Fraser
>>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 10, 2017 7:02 PM
>>> *To:* FVC Waterloo Region Discussion
>>> *Subject:* [fvc-wat-disc] Video of Final NDP Leadership Debate in
>>> Vancouver
>>>
>>> Be sure to watch, so we can pick the best leader for PR
>>>
>>> http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/ndp-leadership-debate-vancou
>>> ver-1.4282537
>>>
>>> If you want to get right to the PR question, move the slider to
>>> approximately the middle
>>>
>>> Guy Caron reiterated his commitment and asked Jagmeet Singh what he
>>> planned to do ... Singh admitted that Caron's plan was good and that he
>>> himself had yet to place his electoral reform plan on his website. Singh
>>> gave excellent reasons for MMPR but it seems insincere if he hasn't placed
>>> it on his site. Neither Charlie nor Niki commented, but the Vancouver
>>> debate rules didn't allow that.
>>>
>>> But from all sources, Caron, in my opinion, is the most committed to PR.
>>>
>>> cheers,
>>> Don
>>>
>>>
>>>
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