[fvc-wat-disc] Material for door to door discussions

[Jay Judkowitz]

What is the subject of the mail thread I should be looking at the see the
existing discussion?

On Thu, Aug 15, 2019, 5:25 PM Jennifer Ross <2jennross at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Jay.  There is a discussion going on on the Fair Vote Canada discussion
> list on pretty much exactly this topic right this minute.  Would you like
> to join the googlegroup
>
> pr_discussion_group at googlegroups.com
> and post it there as well?  It would seem to be under Thread Discipline,
> which right away tells you how successful that's been, LOL.  You might want
> to please the guy and start a new subject line of "Material for door to
> door discussions"
>
> Jenn
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> No other Western democratic country concentrates as much political power in
> the hands of one person as Canada does with her Prime Minister.
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 15, 2019 at 4:09 PM Catherine Campbell <cdcampbell9 at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Great idea
>>
>> On Aug 15, 2019, at 2:52 PM, Jay Judkowitz <judkowitz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> FairVoters,
>>
>>      I had to explain PR to my 10 year old daughter after our last
>> meeting and came up with this two tab spreadsheet (which can easily be
>> printed out on a single sheet 8.5x11 sheet of paper - one tab per side).  I
>> was thinking that something like this could help us guide door to door
>> conversations if we decide to take that route.  I'd love your feedback on
>> this idea generally, and the content specifically.
>>
>>      Tab 1
>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xyUjwYo6TpwejEdCXbSxm11ooXFACKQAFIoZ3_mMqrg/edit#gid=1710981120> is
>> a setup.  It's the results of an election in a mythical country with 11
>> ridings and 21,000 people in each riding.  Each cell is 1000 votes.  Tab 1
>> asks four questions of the listener about what they thought would be fair
>> and democratic.  There is no pitch for PR at this point and no criticism of
>> FPTP.  Just try to get people's gut feel on the questions.  (My daughter's
>> gut feel on what would be fair and good aligned with our values for PR)
>>
>>      Tab 2
>> <https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1xyUjwYo6TpwejEdCXbSxm11ooXFACKQAFIoZ3_mMqrg/edit#gid=0> is
>> the results with FPTP and PR.  It shows the distortion of FPTP and explains
>> why that's bad.  And, the whole 39% of the votes = 100% of the power is
>> exactly what happened in 2011 and 2015 as we know.  Now presumably, the
>> listeners answered the questions reasonably in the first tab and will be
>> shocked by the results in the second tab.  Then we explain how PR can get
>> more closely aligned to their expectations of fairness and democracy.
>>
>>       What do you think of that approach of engaging with people -
>> starting with the questions and letting them come to the conclusion that
>> FPTP sucks on their own?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Jay
>>
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